[OZ_Velar]

Has anyone spec'd the summer tyre option for their delivery? I am in Australia and for 90% of use and climate i think they would be a better performing tyre, do they differ much from what comes standard? Will be on 22" wheels

 

[mge.92]

Yes I have spec'd summer tires but on the 20". I think if I am not mistaken on the 22's you are going to be getting PIRELLI P ZEROs. It is a good tire but there are better tires on the market. Sadly for the 22" you are limited to that one summer tire. If you want an all season tire in that size, a good alternative is the Continental Extremecontact DWS 06.

 

[chylld]

I specced all-season tyres as I want to have maximum all-weather ability, even though the worst we'll see here in Sydney is the occasional light hail

I'm hoping it will also be quieter than summer tyres especially when making tight turns; the Mercedes GLC is notorious for having severe juddering issues under full lock with summer tyres (official dealer fix is to fit all-seasons)

 

[VelarMan]

Had All Season tyres on my RRS and never had an issue so going to stick with these for the Velar too

 

[Brooke1403]

I'm sticking with all season. Had them on an X5 and Evoque and their wear is excellent with decent grip so a very economical choice too.

 

[mge.92]

If you are going to run all season tires, best to switch to the Continental Extremecontact DWS 06. These are amazing tires. I am planning on running a separate winter and summer setup but if I were to do all season tires or otherwise known as no season tires :lol: i would go for the Continental Extremecontact DWS 06. There is very limited selection of tire choice as you get to 21" and 22"

 

[KRG]

I strongly considered summer tires, as I live in the southern US and have been running summer tires exclusively for the last several years. But this time I stuck w/ the all seasons. Hoping they're a bit more comfortable...and the added benefits of summer rubber would be less realized on an SUV anyway.

 

[velarbg]

What is the fabric all season tyres for 20' wheels?

I see some car's with Pirelli Scorpion but not sure what size is.

 

[mge.92]

OEM Equipment

For 19"
255/55R19
Summer - PIRELLI P ZERO
All Season - Unknown

For 20"
255/50R20
Summer - PIRELLI P ZERO
All Season - PIRELLI SCORPION VERDE ALL SEASON

For 21"
265/45R21
Summer - Unknown
All Season - Unknown

For 22"
265/40R22
Summer - PIRELLI P ZERO
All Season - PIRELLI SCORPION ZERO ALL SEASON

 

[KRG]

I've had Macan loaners with the Scorpians and never had a complaint, so I'll be good with those for now. I'll switch to something better eventually.

 

[chylld]

For 20"
255/50R20
Summer - PIRELLI P ZERO
All Season - PIRELLI SCORPION VERDE ALL SEASON

Just comparing these 2:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Pirelli&tireModel=P+Zero&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=55WR0P0XL&tab=Sizes
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Pirelli&tireModel=Scorpion+Verde+All+Season&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=55WR0SVASXL&tab=Sizes

P Zero has 220 treadwear, Scorpion Verde has 600! Not sure if you can compare treadwear ratings across tyre categories, but that's a big difference.

Scorpions are also 30%+ more expensive, which explains why summer tyres are a no-cost option.

If I had a P380 and no other performance car in my garage I might consider them though

 

[OZ_Velar]

I spoke to the dealer yesterday and switched over to summer tyres which will be more beneficial for use that it will get. On the 22" you get the P Zero or the Scorpion Zero if you go all season which look cheaper than the P zero

Tyre rack have the velar listed with tyre options now

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSearchResults.jsp?tireIndex=4&autoMake=Land Rover&autoYear=2018&autoModel=Range+Rover+Velar&autoModClar=&width=265%2F&ratio=40&diameter=22&sortCode=61443&skipOver=true&minSpeedRating=H&minLoadRating=XL

 

[chylld]

I spoke to the dealer yesterday and switched over to summer tyres which will be more beneficial for use that it will get. On the 22" you get the P Zero or the Scorpion Zero if you go all season which look cheaper than the P zero

Summer tyres for the appearance I can understand, but what are the other benefits of summer tyres over all-seasons? Road noise? Grip for safety reasons e.g. stopping distances? Mileage in our hot Aussie weather? (despite the massive difference in treadwear rating)

 

[mge.92]

If you want All season's then go for Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06.

Summer tires are better for hot climates and if you are never going to be driving in any temperatures near 8 Celcius or snow you're better off with just summer than All-seasons

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=ExtremeContact+DWS+06&partnum=64WR2DWS06XL&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Land%20Rover&autoYear=2018&autoModel=Range%20Rover%20Velar&autoModClar=

 

[OZ_Velar]

I spoke to the dealer yesterday and switched over to summer tyres which will be more beneficial for use that it will get. On the 22" you get the P Zero or the Scorpion Zero if you go all season which look cheaper than the P zero

Summer tyres for the appearance I can understand, but what are the other benefits of summer tyres over all-seasons? Road noise? Grip for safety reasons e.g. stopping distances? Mileage in our hot Aussie weather? (despite the massive difference in treadwear rating)

Yes the summer tyres benefit more for all the factors you listed, being road noise, grip, stopping etc and even mileage from reviews I just read on tire rack. I might go to the snow once a year but all other driving here summer tyres are far superior

 

[chylld]

I'm mainly curious about the actual reasons why they're better in warm climates.

I've had P Zeros before and the wet grip was atrocious by the time they were half worn. The Velar will be mainly for carting kids, gear and shopping around, so I would rather have more consistency between dry grip and wet grip than outright dry performance.

That said I'm still interested in what other benefits summer tyres have.

edit: just saw your post OZ_Velar. Very interesting, will consider it.

 

[chylld]

Just found this helpful page: http://www.continental-tyres.com.au/car/technology/tyre-knowledge/tirelexikon-2-0/lex-1-5

For our climate the summer tyres are definitely better then. Emailed my dealer, hopefully it's not too late to change... that said I won't really be fussed if it's already locked in

 

[mge.92]

Yeah the P Zero's are not that great of a tire. That's why I am fine driving them for a while and chucking them out getting some winters on and then when spring rolls around getting a better set of tires. I wish Land Rover would offer wheel sizes that tire manufacturers actually would produce for lol.

 

[chylld]

Oh well, too late to change for me; order is fully locked in. Not fussed, will change to summer tyres if I don't like the all-seasons, and hopefully there will be more choice than just P Zeros by then.

 

[OZ_Velar]

chylld ask your dealer to send you the vista sheet as that will have the exact build date as well as last change date in the system, i got mine to send it to me as it was September build with late July change cut off.