Two year, 32,000 mile review (D300)

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HarryR
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Re: Two year, 32,000 mile review (D300)

Post by HarryR » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:08 pm

As a soon-to-be Velar owner (hopefully in a about a week) I’m comforted and reassured by these reports and that there’s a good chance it will be positive and rewarding experience.


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Re: Two year, 32,000 mile review (D300)

Post by Arianne » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:58 am

Jim55 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:52 pm
Hi Arianne, long time since you made a post. I followed you from the F-Pace to the Velar and love both.

When I read on the Velar forum some of the complaints about slow and unstable ICTP I often wonder how the Velar owners would have survived the bleeding edge that was the early life ICTP on the F-Pace.

Have to say I also have had no material issues with my Velar and was quite sad when I said goodbye to the F-Pace.

I find the Velar more comfortable and refined but not as much fun as the F-Pace on fast windy roads.

Jim
Hi Jim, you are 100% right about the two cars handling. I have fond memories of our F-pace. The handling on these fast country roads up here was phenomenal and left a smile on my face every time. How Jaguar manages to engineer an SUV to perform like that is truly amazing.

I test drove the Porsche Macan before ordering our F-pace. It too was incredible but, in my opinion, the Macan is just a jacked up hatchback rather than SUV. And it’s ugly. Mrs A couldn’t get past the appearance of the Macan and refused to have one sitting on her drive, sorry our drive! The Jaguar has much more room than the Porsche and is only marginally less capable in terms of handling.

We loved our F-pace but the build quality was very poor. The bonnet shut line was awry, such that the car looked like it had had a stroke. The air circulation system in the cabin was weird and made funny noises. The ICT system was, as you say, ancient and felt like it was running on an Intel Celeron chipset. But I was still sorry to see her go because JLR couldn’t fix the wheel drone.

Who would believe that the Velar and F-pace are made on the same production line. The build quality and panel fit of the Velar is a world apart from the Jaguar. It’s like the production line team see a Velar body shell slowly heading towards them on the line and straighten their backs, chuck their fags to one side and galvanise themselves to do a good job! A bit like O’Reilly the builder from Fawlty Towers - just after he has been beaten by Sybil with the umbrella and told that she has seen more intelligent creatures living on their backs at the bottom of ponds, Basil asks him what kind of a man O’Reilly is and tells him that he needs to do the best day’s work he’s ever done before Sybil returns the next day! Love that part.

I have found that the Velar can be hustled and copes pretty well in dynamic settings on these country roads. But whereas the F-pace is begging to be let loose and rewards you handsomely for the opportunity, the Velar says “come on, I am a Velar, I can play this game if you really wish, but don’t you want me to cosset you and take you to your destination in a serene and peaceful manner?” Despite having the massive 700Nm of torque, the Velar has progressively changed my driving style from fast and furious WRC driver to “Yes m’lady”, Parker from Thunderbirds!

Like others, I look forward to every journey. Really, I do. Two years into ownership and she still feels tight, new and fresh.

@tspdavey, thanks for your tip about the opening track of silence. Why didn’t I think of that? Too linear in my mind. But then I work for an accountancy and audit firm - creativity isn’t what folk seek in accounting although some have tried!

By the way, I mentioned our earlier Volvo experiences. Here’s the link https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=221555. Over 300,000 views and counting. Fire risk, recalls, owner anger, etc. A thread that started in 2015 and is still actively running four year later. Do cars have faults? Yes they do. Does the Velar have faults? Yes it does. Some cars have more faults than others. Is this a JLR thing alone. Of course not. Life is messy, I took too long to learn it. It isn’t about fairness, it’s just about navigating through this mess and retaining peace of mind and joy. Easy to say, less easy to live it when one is in the thick of it.

Best wishes and a lovely, chilly weekend folks. Arianne.

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Re: Two year, 32,000 mile review (D300)

Post by HarryR » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:20 pm

Love the FT and TB references . I hope you stick around and continue to provide erudite views on Velar ownership.


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Re: Two year, 32,000 mile review (D300)

Post by chastt » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:23 pm

Hi Arianne & Jim, I'm just making the same jump from F-Pace to Velar this week, picking it up on Wednesday.
Looked at the Macon too, but turned it down 'cos I value the Velar's looks above the Macan's handling
My F-Pace (ICTP aside, no need to say any more on this subject) has been perfect if a bit dull (I have the 2.0l diesel....boring), and am looking forward to a more luxurious drive with the Range Rover.


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Re: Two year, 32,000 mile review (D300)

Post by Arianne » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:45 pm

chastt wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:23 pm
Hi Arianne & Jim, I'm just making the same jump from F-Pace to Velar this week, picking it up on Wednesday.
Looked at the Macon too, but turned it down 'cos I value the Velar's looks above the Macan's handling
My F-Pace (ICTP aside, no need to say any more on this subject) has been perfect if a bit dull (I have the 2.0l diesel....boring), and am looking forward to a more luxurious drive with the Range Rover.
Well, we hope you have a super day tomorrow then :)

Your description of the Velar by comparison to the F-pace is accurate.

Let us know what spec, colour and options you have on your Velar. Perhaps Jim and I will share some of the functionality that you can positively exploit. It’s taken me time to learn how to get the most from everything that is loaded into the Velar. I probably haven’t harvested it all yet, if truth be told.

The car is quite complex, although if you are coming from the F-pace the learning curve will probably be faster for you. At the start it can be quite frustrating and I have found myself annoyed at what I first thought were bugs and flaws. But later, I realised that I hadn’t been using the thing correctly! One can argue that it all should be intuitive and fool-proof. True but it isn’t. For example, my music player jammed twice requiring a complete shutdown of the car and patience while we waited for the thing to reset across a couple of minutes (which feel like an age when you are waiting for the seconds to tick past). And then I realised that it was because the music queue from my USB drive was corrupt. Just resetting the play order by song dealt with that acute event.

You get to learn these things and then find you enjoy the car even more. At the beginning, I had the seat set all wrong which was killing my upper left thigh. I mean, agony! Then I read a thread on this forum about starting from scratch and adjusting gradually for a week or so. I did that, a radical reset to my seat with no reference to what I had previously had before...... and it’s worked. Long journey - no issues.

Recently, I found a use for the dormant configurable dynamics option that I selected (I nearly always scan the cheaper options list and load up on them if I think they represent VFM). But this option had been dormant for almost two years. What a waste of money, I thought. A true gimmick. And then I realised that, when I drive along winding country roads, I want the stiffer suspension and tighter steering but I don’t often want higher engine performance and a gearbox that is more eager to change down. So I set the dynamic setting in configurable dynamics to the stiffer suspension and steering but dialled down on the engine performance and gearbox - mine is a V6 diesel so standard engine performance is almost always plenty, even for overtaking. Result, better alignment with my driving style. That one only took two years to discover from delivery in 2017!!!

There are many more. Anyway, best wishes with your collection and know the forum is here for you. There will be niggles, let’s hope nothing huge.

Enjoy. Arianne
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Re: Two year, 32,000 mile review (D300)

Post by chastt » Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:08 pm

Thanks Arianne, I'll up-load some photos in the next day* or so and let you know how I'm getting on with it
*I'm still in the grinning stage at the moment


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Re: Two year, 32,000 mile review (D300)

Post by Arianne » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:00 pm

Fab. Sounds like the first milestone has been achieved - a decent handover by the dealer. Take nothing for granted! Enjoy and let us have the pics when the time is right. Enjoying the moment is more important than being burdened with vlog production.

Arianne
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Re: Two year, 32,000 mile review (D300)

Post by Jim55 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:36 pm

Chastt, glad to hear you are at the grinning stage, as Arianne says this hopefully means you had good handover. I also had the 2l 180 hp F-Pace and found on windy country roads it could keep up with just about anything if pushed hard and dynamic and sport was selected.

Arianne, thanks for the tip about the configurable dynamics - mine has sat unused for a year now.

My drivers seat was configured perfectly within about a month of getting the car, then Mrs Jim saved her setting over mine and it has taken about 6 months and many false starts to get it back again to how it was. I find I sometimes need to make very small adjustments between when I drive to work in the morning, work a long day and then drive home in the evening (typically about 1.5 to 2 hours each way), restoring the seat back to standard setting next time I drive the car.

I guess I'm getting old or spoilt. ;)
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Re: Two year, 32,000 mile review (D300)

Post by Arianne » Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:44 am

Jim55 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:36 pm
Chastt, glad to hear you are at the grinning stage, as Arianne says this hopefully means you had good handover. I also had the 2l 180 hp F-Pace and found on windy country roads it could keep up with just about anything if pushed hard and dynamic and sport was selected.

Arianne, thanks for the tip about the configurable dynamics - mine has sat unused for a year now.

My drivers seat was configured perfectly within about a month of getting the car, then Mrs Jim saved her setting over mine and it has taken about 6 months and many false starts to get it back again to how it was. I find I sometimes need to make very small adjustments between when I drive to work in the morning, work a long day and then drive home in the evening (typically about 1.5 to 2 hours each way), restoring the seat back to standard setting next time I drive the car.

I guess I'm getting old or spoilt. ;)

Jim55, do you know what I had on my Volvo XC60 that I miss on the Velar?

........ the key fobs memorised your preferred memory setting for the seats. This meant that the seat was already moving into position as you opened the door. Mrs A had her fob, I had mine and the lad (who owns the SLC that I enjoy too) had....... nothing except the No3 button! Pecking order!

Having said that, as I sit here and type this message, I realise that I too must be getting both old and spoilt.

On second thoughts, just to own a Velar (well, not a Velar that folk have needed to reject based on the other thread admittedly) is to be in a fortunate position. I can live happily even if I get wet waiting for Mrs A’s Seat setting to move backwards from right up against the steering wheel, bolt upright and then need to remove the two ballerina shoes thoughtfully abandoned in the pedal box.

I have a little errand to run this evening which gives me the perfect excuse to drive our car, on my own, music on and get ready for the weekend. Perfect!

Arianne

PS. Glad I am not the only one trying to figure out a practical use for the adaptive dynamics!
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