Sat Nav re-routing

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NISHSO
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Sat Nav re-routing

Post by NISHSO » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:22 am

Morning,

Has anybody found a way for the sat nav not to re-route or at least advise you of a re-route?
I was in Cornwall yesterday going to a place in Devon (no idea where I was going) because of traffic or something it took me off the main road - I just thought this was the way I was supposed to go - wrong!
First of all it took me through this small hamlet and was grid locked for around an hour (I’m assuming others sat navs did the same). Got through this and it took me down roads that was JUST about wide enough for me to fit and it was two way!
All quite stressful being honest (worried about stacking my car!). 60 miles took me 2 hours 20 minutes.
I have all the settings set I can see to avoid this for route planning but it still does it. So on setting my route home to Hampshire I plugged my phone in and used Apple Maps!

On a separate occasion earlier on in the day it took to a ploughed field which must have been a right of way ~ so unbelievable I just laughed!

Interested to hear anything that may help.......
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Arianne
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Re: Sat Nav re-routing

Post by Arianne » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:11 am

The native SatNav, in common with most similar systems, is prone to this kind of behaviour.

We have experienced it several times and I have written about it on this forum - why on Earth it would consider rerouting us off the A8 autobahn through Pforzheim in Germany at rush hour on a Friday evening when were travelling from Calais to Austria for a ski holiday. Complete madness, on ever smaller residential roads to avoid the gridlocked city centre and then attempting to route us the wrong way along a one-way street (the maps had only just been refreshed before we left on holiday from Scotland). You know something is weird when you find yourself on mono block streets with scattered benches for the locals while on a pan-euro journey of twelve hours duration. Meanwhile, my son’s Apple Maos was all for having us stick with the autobahn. That was the end for the native system as far as we were concerned.

A few days ago it chose to route us on very narrow country lanes before attempting to have us take an overgrown track - the shortest route in theory but completely crazy. We ignored the instruction. I later checked on Google maps and the track certainly does appear as a road so I guess this might be the limitation with these systems?

Last year, in Summer 2019, we were in Catalonia. The major software update had reset the SatNav options to include off-road, unbeknown to me. We ended up off roading on dust / sand tracks. Worth checking your settings.

In Italy, we experienced issues similar to your own - the SatNav routing us through hamlets with buildings too closely positioned such that the road wasn’t wide enough for the Velar. That’s why Italians love the Fiat 500.

My own view is that it’s better to use Apple or Google Maps via screen mirroring using Apple CarPlay or Android Auto. Shame but it really makes sense despite my deep desire to resist it with my heart.

When my subscription for the maps expires in late-September, I am unsure whether I will buy a renewal - about £130 for two years. I will just take a fresh map update in September for good measure and thereafter use the navigation on my mobile.

Sad but true. I also hate the way the system silently reroutes you such that you have no control over it. It’s good in principle and I actually love the interface, display and some functionality (contacting folk ahead of time to let them know of delays and car parking spaces etc.). But the fundamental purpose of SatNav is to get you to your destination safely, reasonably quickly and with the minimum of anxiety. By these standards, the JLR system fails the test.

Have a nice break, if you’re on holiday.

Arianne
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Simonh
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Re: Sat Nav re-routing

Post by Simonh » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:32 pm

Mobile nav using TomTom Go, Google, Apple (TomTom traffic), Waze (Google too) etc is always better than built in nav. Only reason I use the built in nav is the dashboard display of the route. Suspect that’s why you like it too Arianne?

CarPlay with iOS14 will support dual displays so in theory any app including mapping will be able to use the dashboards as long as manufacturers support the API.

Problem is they keep insisting on adding their own navigation which invariably is worse than any mobile app.
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Arianne
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Re: Sat Nav re-routing

Post by Arianne » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:38 pm

Simonh wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:32 pm
Mobile nav using TomTom Go, Google, Apple (TomTom traffic), Waze (Google too) etc is always better than built in nav. Only reason I use the built in nav is the dashboard display of the route. Suspect that’s why you like it too Arianne?

CarPlay with iOS14 will support dual displays so in theory any app including mapping will be able to use the dashboards as long as manufacturers support the API.

Problem is they keep insisting on adding their own navigation which invariably is worse than any mobile app.
Evidence, if it were needed, that car manufacturers should ‘stick to their knitting’. They make cars, Google & Apple do technology. Tom Tom and Garmin do SatNav. JLRs attempt to ‘go it alone’ with the initial concept of a dedicated suite of apps was doomed from the start. Worked well for us all though - we got Apple CarPlay free as a retro-engineered upgrade. That don’t happen often in life.

Best wishes, Arianne
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MITO
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Re: Sat Nav re-routing

Post by MITO » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:21 pm

Agree that Google/Apple maps are better. The only time where the built in Nav system has been useful is in remote areas with poor cell coverage, making the cellphone apps unusable unless you download the local area map in advance.

Pat27
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Re: Sat Nav re-routing

Post by Pat27 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:58 pm

I have the Analogue version in the rear seat pocket , it’s called a Road Atlas - It’s got me out of a fix quite a few times :D

Arianne
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Re: Sat Nav re-routing

Post by Arianne » Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:39 pm

Pat27 wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:58 pm
I have the Analogue version in the rear seat pocket , it’s called a Road Atlas - It’s got me out of a fix quite a few times :D
Ours is in the boot. Wouldn’t be without one. U.K. and Europe. It’s my safety blanket! It’s also an age thing, I think.

Arianne
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Re: Sat Nav re-routing

Post by Simonh » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:02 pm

Also always have a book of map pages in the car. Just in case. Also give my wife something to read ;)
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